Sunday, March 29, 2026

Oh Wow, Now I Find I'm Related To Harper Lee

 I was always a fan of "To Kill A Mockingbird" so I am extremely chuffed to find that I am related to its author, who is apparently my 13th cousin, once removed, on my mother's maternal side. A forebear of my Hunts, way back when. Our ancestries merge in the 1500s with Walter Roberts and Frances Maynard. Their daughters, Ann (on my side) and Grysell (on Harper Lee's). 

It's interesting to find that she based Atticus Finch on her father, and the idea for "To Kill A Mockingbird" came from a real life case that her father defended. Sadly, the 2 men in real life, a father and son accused of murdering a white storekeeper, were hanged.

It would have been nice to have known all of this when she was alive, and maybe to have been able to write to her and get to know her. She died in 2016 though, in Monroeville, Alabama, the same town she was born, and grew up, in.

Thursday, March 6, 2025

Yesterday Gave Me Some Surprises

 It was quite an eye opening day, and has given me much more to delve into in my family history. It seems I don't just have James Murrell in my family tree but I have 5 other pretty famous people in there too - albeit distant distant cousins - and that's pretty neat, I think.

Family Search, the genealogy site linked to the LDS Church (who have the biggest repository of births/death/marriage in the world) notified me of the connections.

Through my mother's side of the family, 11 generations, and Judy Garland's Henry Brawner (born in 1600) was the brother of my line's Mary Brawner (1609-1681). Their parents died in Willesborough, Kent. That was a surprise but not the only one. 

I've always liked her as an actress. She was one of the starlets in the Zeigfeld Girl and Ziegfeld Follies movies, in the 1940s. 2 of my fave movies from that era. Sadly, MGM Studios, which produced the movies, was one of those that gave the actresses uppers to get them up bright and early to shoot their scenes, and downers to help them sleep, which began the addiction that followed her all through her life.

On my father's side, I have the connections to the other 4.

 Amazingly enough, one of those was also one of Zeigfeld's "girls" and a brilliant actress and businesswoman, in her own right, and later a comedienne. Another that I have loved and admired most of my life. Lucille Ball. WOW, that was a def "I wish I'd known this 40 odd years ago".She is my 13th cousin once removed.

In her case, we're separated by 13 generations, through John King (1540-1583) on my side and his sister, Mary (1555-1653) who died in Little Baddow near Chelmsford.

Even wilder than that is that Elvis Presley is my 13th cousin once removed.To think of all of his songs that I sang along to growing up and I had no clue. Even neater is that we share a "Lady" as a however-many-times-great-grandmother. Lady Margaret Elisabeth Sytherhurst.  Nobility in my genes ... is that why my little finger sticks out when I drink from a cup?

Sir Peter Blake, the yachtsman who has won the America Cup twice, is my 12th cousin once removed.

Last, but def not least, one of the authors of "the classics" a lady who gave us insights into Victorian society and the lives of women during that time, Jane Austen. She's my 6th cousin 8 times removed.WOW! At first, she had to publish her books anonymously because writing was considered a man's arena, and her first novel, "Sense and Sensibility", was published as authored "By A Lady".

Thursday, January 20, 2022

Info from the 1921 census

 I was excited for the 1921 census to finally be available, and my 2 main focal characters (those who I felt would give me the most information on the document) were Sam Poyser my great-grandfather, my maternal grandmother's father, and Charles Hunt, my nan's grandfather through her mother.

Charles and his 2nd wife, Alice, were the only people living at 1 Rathbone Street in Canning Town at the time of the census, June 19th 1921. All of the children were grown and gone. It seems he still had the shop as he is listed as "Livestock Dealer - Birds etc". He was 62 and his employment is noted as "own account" which I assume to mean self-employed, and his place of employment is "at home". He and Alice had been married almost 18 years.

I am now wondering, was my nan's sister, Alice, named after her mother's stepmother? I guess I'll never know, but, if so, that would be telling of the relationship between them. My great grandmother would have been 18 at the time of her father's remarriage,  mother, Catherine (Kate) having died only the previous year.

Sam Poyser's record gave me new information.  his working life. Having previously worked at the Thames Ironworks, that had closed down by the 1921 census. His then-workplace was listed as Fletcher Feasell Ship Repairers but I could find no mention of them anywhere, the closest being  Fletcher, Son and Fearnall who were "marine engineers" with locations at Limehouse and Tilbury.. I believe this is the company, since there are other errors in the census record. My grandmother, Rose, for instance, is listed as Rox, and poor "Uncle Harry" from my childhood is shown as Mary although - thankfully - he is still designated as "son".

Looking into the distances between locations, there being an entrance to Limehouse at Millwall (the entry on the census stating the location of Fletcher Feasell as being at Millwall, Poplar) it definitely seems that Fletcher, Son and Fearnall is the correct employer.

In 1921 his address was 26 Boyd Road, Tidal Basin; this is the same address that my nan and granpop were married from in 1936.

Still got more digging to do ...

Saturday, April 3, 2021

Up The Hammers!



My family history research often goes off on a tangent. For over 150 years, my Poysers and Hunts were Plaistow/Canning Town residents, and (as a young man) my great-grandfather, Sam Poyser, and many of the male members of his family, worked at the Thames Ironworks, the largest shipbuilder on the Thames. 


West Ham FC began when employees formed a works team that became the Thames Ironworks Football Club. In fact, a lot of the social life centred around the company, as it employed so many local people, families, neighbours and friends. The sense of community in those days was very prevalent. I have often wondered how my family members may have been involved in WW1 and WW2, and when I saw this book, I thought it might give me some answers. Thus far in my reading, I've not found any of them named. The book is very interesting though and has taught me a lot already, about the mentality around those WW1 years.



I did not realise that the Kitchener posters instigated a volunteer army that was looked down upon by the regular army. I would have thought they would have been grateful to have had so many men and boys willing to swell their numbers, but apparently, there was a snobbishness by the regulars and a disdain for the volunteers.


Apparently, it was not the army itself that recruited and trained those who signed up. Local authorities and major companies formed their own groups of volunteers - and it then fell to the communities to outfit these groups with uniforms, weaponry, and money for billeting and food.  


Growing up, myself, in Leytonstone, and spending a lot of time on Wanstead Flats, I was totally unaware of it's history as a training ground for the Thames Ironworks volunteers. They learned how to dig trenches there (and practiced over and over), learned how to shoot, and more.

This book is an excellent resource. It really explores the coming together of the West Ham Battalion, and tells the stories of various people, and battles, during the First World War.  I am hoping to find one of my Hunts or Poysers in the pages somewhere, but even if I don't, this is an awesome book and a brilliant history of that time.


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Friday, December 4, 2020

My "other" grandparents, who I never knew

So, having found out from my father's cousin, Diane, that my grandfather, George, was more than a bit of a cad, leaving women and children in his wake and really being quite irresponsible throughout his life, I now have this photo of him and some of his siblings.


And this sombre looking lady is my great-grandmother Kate. This was taken in the 1920s. I can see a resemblance between her and my granddaughter Leah.


 

Thursday, December 3, 2020

My Father's Family

Discovering exactly WHO my father was has been a journey. It seems he was almost a Jekyll and Hyde in ways, with 2 personalities for different parts of his life. I was never able to talk to him, before his death, my then newly-found sister wanted me to "be patient" as her dad had (a few years) previously had a heart attack, and never let me have chance, for 2 years prior to his death. She then waited a few weeks to even let me know he had died, and that he had been hospitalized for a month prior to that.

A couple of years later, my brother contacted me. Our sister had made me promise I would not try to find him, and I'd kept that promise. As he said though, "you didn't contact me, I contacted you". Although he and I are now out of touch, because I had his work email and I guess he retired or changed jobs, he told me a lot and helped put some things into perspective.

Marriage of John Leggett & Iris Lay
Bridesmaids Edith and Eileen Leggett pageboy Alec Leggett

Sadly, the couple in the picture, and their children, were killed by a doodlebug in London, towards the end of the war.

Another person who gave me input was my aunt, and through her I was able to see another side of the man who was my father, and finally, a few days ago, I was discovered and contacted, by one of my father's cousins, and she and I have been chatting since.

I do have a different sense of my father than I had when I was younger. Rather than be angry at him not being in my life, and feeling that there was something wrong with me because he had chosen not to be, I now realise there was much more involved in that.

When my dad came into my life, and married my mum when I was 2, my father's maintenance stopped. I am assuming that, at that time, it was the way the law worked. Kind of, an "ok you've now got this dad so he'll be taking care of you instead of the other one" and that may still be the case in the UK whereas here in the US where I now live, the natural parent pays child support until the child is 18, whether the custodial parent remarries or not.

I am also considering that, when my dad adopted me, possibly with that terminating Alec's parental rights, in removing him from my record as a parent, maybe he was not allowed to have contact with me.

Whatever the circumstances, I am now more sorry than angry that I never got to speak with him before his death. The more I find out about him, I feel he was a sad little boy who grew up and made some mistakes that haunted him for the rest of his life.

My brother, Alex, had told me that his father was not really a hands-on fun dad, like my dad was. My dad taught me to jive when I was about 5 or 6, he was always a fun character, carried us kids around on his shoulders and when he didn't want you piling on his lap, he'd  tell you he had " a bone in his leg" and we thought that was something terrible.

Alex said that Alec went to work, would come home, eat dinner and then sit in his armchair and read the newspaper or watch the television. Apparently, he would watch Nationwide, and then turn to BBC for Star Trek, and that his other favourite programmes to watch, were Whicker's World, World At War and Mission Impossible.  

Alec's father had abandoned his mother when Alec was young, so Alex and I think this left him with no role model for how a "real" father should act, so he was basically just the provider, going to work and bringing home the money, and left the children's care to his wife.

This seemed to be a totally different person to the one that my aunt had described. She said he was flamboyant, the centre of attention, flirty, a teddy boy and that nobody even realised he was married. When I mentioned this to my brother, and he talked to his mum about his dad (without saying why he was asking) his mum basically reiterated this in that she said she met him at a dance (he thinks this may have been at the Bank of England as they had a lot of social activities for employees) and that Alec was like a peacock strutting around with his bright suits and orange hair. 

This was definitely in contrast to his perceptions of his father.

Genetically, auburn hair is on both sides of my family, so I guess that explains mine!

He does remember his dad keeping the DA hairstyle when he was younger, and that, even into his 70s he did like bright colours.

In my father's cousin, Diane, finding me recently, and in our conversations, more has fallen into place that has also made me feel a sympathy for my father and the circumstances he found himself in, albeit by his own mistake.

As Alex had told me, his dad's father, George, had left the family when Alec was a young boy. Diane had a lot more information on that. Her mother, Edith, was George's father.

Apparently George had always been in trouble as a young man, but she remembered him as a fun person who, coming to visit while on leave from the RAF, told stories where various storybook characters met up and did things together. Sadly Alec's mother went down with TB, and George employed a young woman named Ivy to take care of her. Ivy apparently was underage, and George seduced her, and then they ran off together and had children of their own.

Diane and I agree that it seems Alec and his father both seemed to have seducing underage females in common.

Apparently though, because his wife would not divorce him (she was Catholic) he and Ivy were only common-law husband and wife, and by the time Nellie was ready to just let it go, Ivy had also been left and he had moved on to another younger woman, a secretary, who he did marry.

My father apparently lied about his age and joined the Army at 17. George wanted to buy him out, but Alec would not hear of it. I know Alec was posted to Lucknow, in India, which, from the possible dates - he being born in 1926 - would have probably been in the latter days of the Raj and just before Partition, although I have no definite dates on his time in service.


When I look into his eyes on this photo, he seems to be have such a solemn and intense look to him, it makes me wonder what he was thinking as it was being taken.

One thing that my brother stated, which seems very poignant, is that - feeling the way he did about his own father's abandonment and the things he did not like about him because of it - he feels Alec being torn between 2 children (my sister and myself) would have been extremely hard for him and made him aware of the similarity.

My journey continues.

Wednesday, November 25, 2020

True or False - Only Time Will tell

I am slowly making headway on my granpop's side of the family, and have now tracked his father back to childhood. 

In the 1881 census, the family are living in Cavendish Street. It appears that he was a twin with a brother named Harry, but I am trying to verify this, and if true, find out what happened to Harry.

Name:John Lewis
Event Type:Census
Event Date:1881
Event Place:Shoreditch, London,Middlesex, England
Registration District:Shoreditch
Residence Note:Cavendish St
Gender:Male
Age:30
Marital Status:Married
Marital Status (Original):Married
Occupation:Genl Carman
Birth Year (Estimated):1851
Birthplace:Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
Relationship to Head of Household:Head
Page Number:36
Registration Number:RG11
Piece/Folio:388/21
Affiliate Record Type:Household
Affiliate Image Identifier:GBC/1881/4299392/00047&parentid=GBC/1881/0001875249
Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
John Lewis
Head
Male
30
Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
Wife
Female
22
Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
Son
Male
4
Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
Son
Male
4
Shoreditch, Middlesex, England

At aged 14, on the 1891 census, he and his family were living at Rushton Street in Hoxton. At that time, he had 2 younger brothers, Henry and Albert. Harry was no longer listed.

Unfortunately, although both streets still exist, they have been demolished and rebuilt


   John Lewis

England and Wales Census, 1891
Name:John Lewis
Event Type:Census
Event Date:1891
Event Place:Shoreditch, London, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original):Shoreditch, London, England
Event Place Note:Rushton Street
County:London
Parish:Shoreditch
Ecclesiastical Parish:CHRISTCHURCH
Enumeration District:12
Registration District:Shoreditch
Gender:Male
Age:14
Marital Status:Single
Birth Year (Estimated):1877
Birthplace:London, England
Relationship to Head of Household:Son
Page Number:9
Registration Number:RG12
Piece/Folio:249/ 135
Affiliate Record Type:Household
Affiliate Image Identifier:GBC/1891/0249/0270&parentid=GBC/1891/0002210118
Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
Head
Male
40
London, England
Wife
Female
34
London, England
John Lewis
Son
Male
14
London, England
Son
Male
12
London, England
Son
Male
4
Hoxton, London, England